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Gammons On The Rangers & Robinson Chirinos

The venerable Peter Gammons with a piece on

The Rangers were the other team in it to the end. They thought they could get Chirinos from the Cubs, then package him with left-handed pitcher Derek Holland, reliever Frank Francisco and outfielder Engel Beltre, plus pay some of Francisco’s contract.


Robinson Chirinos may be 26, but he’s a converted infielder whom the Rays compare to Phillies catcher Carlos Ruiz; his numbers between Double-A and Triple-A were very good — .326 average, .999 OPS, 18 homers, 46 extra-base hits, 44 walks, 43 strikeouts.

If you’re going to talk to someone in the baseball media, then make it Gammons. With that in mind, I’m prone to believe this information is coming from the Rays and not rival talent evaluators or whatever reporting cliché is out there.

The more I read about this trade, the more it appears that everybody has a different opinion on just who the key is. Some suggest Hak-Ju Lee, others say Chris Archer, but the Rays seem to be as high on Chirinos as anyone. Kevin Goldstein tweeted yesterday about how he felt that 12th might be too low, since teams had the 26-year-old higher on their internal lists.

As for the Ruiz comparison, that would be fantastic. He’s hit .261/.360/.394 over the past three seasons while also nailing around 30% of base stealers. That’s essentially a combination of John Jaso’s 2010 season (.263/.372/.378) and Dioner Navarro’s career caught stealing rate. Chirinos probably won’t reach quite that status, but if he does, that’s a pretty nice get.

Also make sure to check out Keith Law’s reaction (sub required), as he appears higher on Lee than most (even going so far as to say that he had Lee as the Cubs’ best prospect). As well as Jonathan Mayo’s report, which echos the sentiment about Guyer that he’s an intense, but high makeup fellow:

A former football standout in high school, Guyer brings that game’s mentality to baseball with an all-out aggressive style on both sides of the ball. He’s got very good speed and his power continues to develop. He can play anywhere in the outfield and could very well start the year with Triple-A Durham.

Why do I get the feeling that if this were the draft, Guyer would be tabbed as “a typical Rays pick”.


  1. Jonathan wrote:

    The more and more I think about it, the more and more I like the deal. This team needed some bench/AAA depth this year for inevitable injuries and players who under perform and this trade helped with that. This team always needs to keep an eye towards restocking the pipeline, and this accomplishes that. This team needed money for a DH/1B/RP this also accomplishes that.

    The only concern that I hear and lend credence to is the thought that they didn’t get stacks of frontline talent in the deal. I would have loved to get Jackson as much as the next guy. But in my mind the sheer quantity of players who should make some contribution at the major league level overwhelms that.

    A player doesn’t have to be a great prospect to make a difference for your major league ballclub. Chirinos and Guyer look like guys who have figured out how to succeed later than some prospects. That’s fine. All I care about is that they know how to succeed now.

  2. […] When healthy, Francisco is primarily a two-pitch guy: low-to-mid-90s fastball and a splitter that sits about 10 ticks lower. His delivery includes a tic (a glove tap before he starts his arm) and a head jerk that harms his command. Unsurprisingly, Francisco is loose within the zone. The splitter is a weapon that he could stand to use more often—perhaps in the same way Fernando Rodney used his in hitter’s counts to take advantage of fastball-seeking hitters—yet he’s still struggled against left-handed hitters in the past. Worth noting: Francisco was involved in Matt Garza trade talks two years ago. […]

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